AA Black, tip dry?

[mac]

Champion,mixture of having the house to my self, two day`s off,mean`t ,no clock watching or interruption`s . Chucked some sound`s on(Thin Lizzy, AC/DC i know ,but happy day`s) the basic idea ,take my time and enjoy it,relax and let see what happen`s.
Taking the advice from the reply`s bought some thick black shiny card instead of wall paper backing. Played around and found 35 psi work`s great.
Thin down with water so as said it may take several passes ,but the results are a lot more pleasing. Yep you do hear a change in the brush just before it goes south, nice one! But also found because i reduced the paint became more transparent as explained and as well as becoming more usable, the color`s can be faded better, to the point were i thought more in what i was doing a little blue into a bright red for example instead of just going at it half arsed. Looks more like a air brush than paint by numbers.
Long way to go ,but i can see a glimmer of light now i have a better understanding of what i need to do! Will keep on practicing the dagger strokes , but by moving on to doing a skull ,looking ,thinking about what i am doing, but more important,taking my time and relax has been a great new year`s day.
Sorry to ramble on a lot, but i`m very happy with today,can see a few more ladders on the board where there were only snakes !
Nice to know i`m not the only one and other folk are in the same boat. Hope you also find the reply`s as helpful as i did .
Thank`s for taking the time to help,you were, got to go ,the wife and daughter`s have returned ,so got to ooh and ahhhh at the right place`s as they show the "bargains" from the sale`s
Regard`s Stu

[Ashley]

Glad to hear it's working out Stu. Let us see some work when you're ready.

Happy New Year
Ashley

[David]

Nice one Stu. Look forwars to seeing some work up soon.

Weve been busy converting the roof so havnt had space to do any work for a while. Didnt really want to spray in my room cause i got ferrets in there Just got to put another coat of paint on then i can get back to business

[mac]

B**GER, what is going on,that glimmer of light has vanished ! Had the day off set about it and i`m back to square one!
Been having a couple of hours at it most nights practice dagger stokes etc, today .......this turning into a rant,so going to stop, toys thrown out the pram,compressor close to being launched out the window.
How is every one else getting on that posted similar problems ,any joy?
Time for a pint or 10,i think.
Regards Stu

[craig]

After reading this I went home and tried adding alot more reducer than I normally do, I got way better spraying results! As said above, it takes more coats to cover something but I didn't get tip-dry every 2 minutes, infact, I think I got it once in a half hour!

[jumpforjoy61]

AA and tip dry seem to be synonamous LOL i use gylcerine or etac conditionair which containes glycerine the former is obtainable from any chemist or Asda have it and most big store .it aids atomisation and flow it also extends drying times so cuts down tip dry but dont overdo it or your paint wont ever dry LOL about ten to twenty drops in 100 ml of water then reduce as normal ,i also use ispropyl alcohol at around 25% in water this also aids atomisation and helps with tip dry others use gin or vodka but basicly its the alcohol that doese the trick which by the way is an old one

i have heard that people use a product called liquid fantastic which is similar to Mr Muscle but i would never use this method as these are nasty chemicals especialy when atomised mr m has caustic in it which is what melts the paint and doese eliminate tip dry ,i just use it to clean out my brushes though

black and whites use heavy pigments and even with flow adatives tip dry is never completly eliminated personaly for detailing i use a dark mix of purple instead ,it looks more natural then black and has less tip dry probs

paul

[Del]

If we all add our 2 penneth...

I start with reducer, then add the paint. it spiders like buggery but then you know its the right viscosity.

Paul the glycerine is an excellent tip, but if you get the ratio wrong you may end up lacquering over wet/damp paint.

[jumpforjoy61]

yes you have to watch out for gylcerine as it is a retarder but prediluted at the ratio i gave shouldnt give problems ,,the ispropyl alcohol will aid atomisation reduce tip dry and speed up drying but wear a mask or use good extraction as it will get you high LOL

propylene glycol is good stuff as well dont get this confused with ethleyene glycol wich is extremly harmfull

[mac]

Getting there, seems black is the worse for tip dry, followed by flesh tones. Blues ,reds etc are fine . Odd ?
Good tips , will give it a go ,but not as frustrating now.
Cheers for the help.
Grandpa Stu

[angryrhyno]

Use the auto bourne trans black and white, same AA 4011 reducer, not tip dry!!!

[oddball]

Use the auto bourne trans black and white, same AA 4011 reducer, not tip dry!!!

I didn't think they did a transparent autobourne? or am I missing something?